With 1 year of prep Doom could probably bridge the gap. Making a spite. Minor nitpick. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon Feats, Secret Wars and 1984 and pre-1984 Scaling only) Ivory Kings, First Firmament + Ultimate Ultimates. This is a spite thread then . Well pre-retcon beyonder was able to erase marvels death. Jul 30, 2018. 7. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. #28 ovy7. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. Pre-Retcon Beyonder has been stated to be only millions of times more powerful than a multiverse, which means he has a level of dimensionality that's in the millions or is otherwise infinite. The Beyonder has been retconned. Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins fairly convincingly. said: "Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins 10/10. Let me remind you that SCP verse is much bigger than both Marvel and DC. Pre Retcon Beyonder. Living Tribunal >>>>>Pre-Retcon Beyonder>>>>>White crown phoenix "and yet Phoenix Rachel shocked the Beyonder. Hell even Strange Visitor Superman with scaling off of Mxy could take Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Lucifer obviously wins, the guy literally has half of God's omnipotence. If this is pre retcon then beyonder. A Time Lords) from the. 2. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within his realm. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. It's more like the One Above All kind of power. Hence why people differentiate the. The All-Mighty (SCP) vs TOAA, Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and Oblivion (Marvel) All of them at their strongest. Forum Posts. • 3 yr. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. R. Pre Retcon Beyonder said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea and is considered to be a million times powerful than. TOAA probably isn't more powerful than suggsverse characters. Read my post? I even tried to say that Pennywise scaling is vague, since only the void is beyond infinite-dimensional physics, and not him himself. Dude’s absolutely broken. The Beyonder is a cosmic being of immense power, often labelled as omnipotent during the issues of Secret Wars, and much stronger than all the other cosmic entities. 13 years. The beyonder is a person from another plane of existence called the beyond which is larger than the marvel multiverse. Galactus is fodder here. You need to be logged in to post comments. (Please add any important quotations that may be missing, ensuring to cite the original source. Reason? Preretcon beyonder can stand against TOAA and LT. Win by destroying or sealing opponent. Beyonder is marvel. 1 year ago. Somebody can ask the following members to give input here though. K. " lord marvel is said to be omnipotent and he can get smacked up. THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. you speak nonsense earth boy. 3. Pre recon beyonder is not omnipotent, but nigh-omnipotent as there is only 1 omnipotent character in omniverse and in marvel it is the One Above All not Beyonder. "Pre retcon beyonder is omnipotent, so can easily take care of the Spectre," omipotent does not make a auto win. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. Beyonder's best feats consist of warping reality on a Multiversal scale in his fight with MM, and being millions of times stronger than anyone in the marvel multiverse, but that's only impressive up to a certain point before it becomes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Yeah Mxy is tough as shit, and probably wont go down. Round 1: CAS vs. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. LT literally held the entirety of Marvel and DC universe in the palm of. deactivated-5b3daad020468. SCP-682 (SCP Foundation) vs Beyonder (Pre Retcon) Fight ends only in Death. " Uhhh, yes it does. Thanos wins this. #1. He can't exist beyound the source wall which limits him to not a 11-D being but probably a 10-D. 548. ago. Nope that’s pre-retcon not post retcon. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. And post retcon… well Peter Parker had his power for one billionth of a second a rewrote all of reality. . 9 K. Battle for the title of 2nd strongest Marvel Character. let's wait and see his actual feats. Then the pre retcon beyonder attacks himself. Post Retcon the Beyonder was part cosmic cube along with Owen. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. Beyonder 39%. A. Does it matter by that logic Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) because he didnt resist doom taking his power thats a contradiction in your opinion about PR Beyonder. 14 years ago. She easily could hold an infinite-D multiverse in her hand, while Beyonder's best feat was to shake an infinite-D. Thanos Hotu and Great Evil Beast 49%. let's wait and see his actual feats. Poll Current Lucifer Morningstar vs. (Like many of these fights) Universal Steve. 8 years ago. Tons of awesome Beyonder wallpapers to download for free. 0. Round 10: Presence And GEB ( Respect Thread for GEB) Both are. Morals off. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. Dream of the Endless unable to stop Barbatos, who like Mxyzptlk, will steamroll Beyonder and Molecule Man without even trying. Well COIE Anti Monitor, as powerful as he may be, is actually a little out of his league here. #2. "Pre retcon beyonder is omnipotent, so can easily take care of the Spectre," omipotent does not make a auto win. The Beyonder “realizes” something. 14 years ago. Real title: The beyonder vs the living tribunal. Batman with prep vs Beyonder. In Secret Wars 2, the Beyonder was above the real Living Tribunal (In the retcon, it was. Only if the Beyonder is in his realm, but that becomes a major stomp based on whats said here. A few pages leter Beyonder comes back kills Doom and starts curb stomping everyone including wrecking the mutli verse and breaking apart countless realities That's what Pre Retcon Beyonder is A. He was the single most dangerous threat the Marvel multiverse had ever faced, until he was retconned into a more limited character with varied origins. All reality was a dream created by Beyonder. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. Pre retcon beyonder solos his own verse is larger than the maverl omniverse. Eternity, Death, Infinity, Oblivion. loveNwar. Neutral. He. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Omnipotent! The comics said so. Numidium 2. #38 JayBlack. Pre-retcon has been stated to be millions of time stronger than all the power in the multiverse combined. This is the biggest mismatch. Anti-Monitor's probably on the scale of pre-retcon Molecule Man, a foe that Beyonder was able to beat. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. . Bloodlusted. Pre Retcon Beyonder is TOAA of a world much much larger than Marvel Multiverse. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. Forums Battles Darkseid (True Form) vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder 121 results 1 2 3 #1 Soratoumiga 4 years ago #2 ProfessorRespect Beyonder. Featherine is way above than Beyonder. As I said I'm not intimately familiar with pre retcon beyonder or even marvel comics overall. 7 K. as omnipotent deities in their respective realities, the OAA Dominates the Hoi Realm. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel :. Theoreticaly speaking yes Pre Retcon Beyonder is above TOAA simply because TOAA is the most powerful being in the marvel universe, and PRB is 1 million times more powerful than the collective. It's Shown Here that both beyonder and GoS Loki have Immersion, from traveling between stories/realities from the first scan, second scan show Fictional Interaction,. 11,582. ago. Divine mystical enhancements granting near omnipotent abilities. Basically he is like the Amalgam Brothers, but so much powerful the Brothers would be microscopic in comparison. Pre Retcon Beyonder and Molecule Man are at TOAA’s level. Problem is pre retcon Beyonder is just. Beyonder on the other hand, flip-flops back and forth as to how powerful he really is because of the inconsistent showings of entities that he has fought and the inconsistency of Beyonder's own showings with his own statements for instance: Beyonder was stated to be Million X Infinity the size of a Multiverse but this is mathematically. 5 years ago Galactic_1000Every single universe in the entirety of the Marvel multiverse combined is literally a drop in the ocean to Pre-Retcon Beyonder's power, The minotors exist in a dimension called "The Bleed", which is basically identical to Marvels "The Beyond". LT has no jurisdiction over Phoenix which is why he. 1. The Beyonder, and Molecule man, are each. 4 years ago. Beyonder explicitly said "everything you can dream about, I can do", and it is confirmed by few characters present there. I like to think I'm pretty knowledgeable about SCP though and I agree that from what little I do know I don't think any marvel characters have that level of narrative breaking. OPM can't even defeat Post-retcon Beyonder, let alone Pre-retcon. It's more like the One Above All kind of power. Then there the Beyonder Child unit thing that is related to The beyonders. Learn about his origin, power, and feats in this article. 3. Beyonder is just Metaverse level or Low Metaverse. I am unsure post-retcon Beyonder would even beat that version of her, which was a far. Win by death, KO, incapIf we argue that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is not in his initial state in this match-up, then he might actually get defeated by the Scarlet King. Learn the difference between the original, toned-down, and evolved versions of the Beyonder, a cosmic entity that can create and. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. They live here, and decided to fuck shit up. COIE Monitors cited as. If this is pre retcon then beyonder. "Pre-retcon" just means. Round 2 is just silly, because neither of those characters would be ANY help to Superman, much less to Beyonder. • 1 year ago. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 21 K. Aug 9, 2016. Pre-Retcon Beyonder/Classic Beyonder-As a result of being the entirety of a dimension of far more scope than our own multiverse, he was more powerful than all of the rest of reality (he was. TOAA is God of Marvel while PR Beyonder is a much bigger god. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. Pre Retcon Beyonder was the original TOAA before today's TOAA was established. This is PRE-Retcon Beyonder, you know, before LT could do shit to him and pulled out that asswipe explanation. Biography: The man, the myth, the legend. The biggest question is Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs HOTU. 0. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level. Both Beyonder (assuming this is him outside his personal realm) and the Presence, since both are like Low 1-B, this could go either way. Forum Posts. . than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. But beyonder that isn’t pr gets absorbed. Doctor strange opens one in front and back. Archived post. 1. 2. We can actually prove that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is fodder to Composite-DC. High-End Composite Time Lords and High-End Interpretation Downstreamers 3. well omnipotent. Pre-retcon: The universe was his plaything. Pre retcon Beyonder & MM > Lucifer Morningstar > The Endless. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). Pre-Retcon Beyonder has no physical form, no spiritual form, and or astral form but can take on these forms when he chooses and Beyonder was once Infinite Dimensional and even still his physical form. And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises. The One Above All/Pre retcon Beyonder (both characters were created by legendary comic book writers Jack Kirby and Jim Shooter, Beyonder and OAA are avatars of these two comic book writers. Originally posted by the Darkone Spectre at full powered is above the pre-recon beyonder, Spectre is powered by God, I'm sorry that's one Ace even the pre-recon Beyonder can't overcome. Trying to apply that to the Beyonder is meaningless, he may as well embody all of them considering his origin. The thought of Beyonder defeating SCP 3812 because he was able to destroy a billion universes is laughable. #capcut #short #shorts #shortvideo #edit #versusbattle #beyonder #hajunPre-retcon Beyonder is crazy powerful, powerful enough to stomp the LT, but infinitely weak compared to TOAA. BEYONDERSIn fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. -Protege copied Beyonder powers. When The Pre-Retcon Molecule Man(with the Infinite portion of The Beyonder's Powers)fought The Beyonder, they were stated to be "2 of the mightiest being in ALL. If PR Beyonder is superior to TOAA then God Emperor. The recent additions of the Heart of the Universe as an accepted Canon Thing, and the Pre-Retcon Beyonder's revisions were the first results of such result. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. Beyonder won't evenn make any difference more than the ant. This is the biggest mismatch. This fight takes place in a neutral space and either party wants to kill the other. If the race, then that is a good battle. The Tree of Knowledge alone contains infinite multiverses and aleph infinities and The Scarlet King could effortlessly destroy it. (Pre-Retcon)The Beyonder vs The entirety of DC (excluding The Presence and The Writer) Rules: -Both determine to win at any circumstances. Going by Cosmology Tiering. Azrael and Time(Discworld) 4. The mightiest beings (Living Tribunal) are microbes to him. Do a list of spells, after pre retcon beyonder turns around. Cosmic armor supes needs a downgrade soon. Reply. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. While thinking the Beyonder accidentally destroys the Omniverse. Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is a creature that goes. Hajun via feats and implied power. Most being have failed, and only two holds the hope of all creation. Learn the difference between the original, toned-down, and evolved versions of the Beyonder, a cosmic entity that can create and destroy reality, in Marvel Comics. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. Thanos wins them all unless its Thanos vs OAA. Mephisto said that The Beyonder could make idlest imaginings a reality with a wave of his hand, turning all of existence inside out), Vibration Manipulation (Created an earthquake throughout the city), Attack Reflection (Deflected Magneto's power beam towards the X-Men), Magnetism Manipulation (Repelled Magneto by duplicating his own magnetic. . Interesting. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Omnipotent! The comics said so. All proof that is needed is the fact that he is beyond the marvel multiverse. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. Neutral Omega Beyonder has better feats. The beyonder has way better feats. synnar the. Pre recton beyonder is one of the most over wanked marvel characters . The Darkest Knight (Man who laughs) vs The Beyonder. Pre-Ret MM having abstracts such as LT and Eternity beg him to fight Beyonder implies he's one incredibly powerful dude. Marvel's Multiverse was not using Type III Multiversal Expansion. lmao Also classic Marvel supporters. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. Morals are on for Shuma. The events of. Nope. pre retcon beyonder: can destroy an infinite-d multiverse and exists independently of it. As you can see in the marvel hierarchy the one above all is at the very top. CsmicRanker1314 1. Shinra destroys their narrative 68%. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. 0. Death from what I remember had no power of Lucifer, only Destiny did - so I think it's safe to assume she scales below him. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God of Stories Loki Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Venom (The End) Archived post. deactivated-5d45fd7ce1a16. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was. Text-only Version:. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (as in, during Secret Wars II) was more powerful than the in-universe hand of the author. ". Share to. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. Ruphas have Higher dimensional manip. @Ziro: Pre-Retcon Beyonder got his powers taken away by Dr. Batman (just kidding) 10 years ago. Both sides are in character but determined to win. The only. Protege is the embodiment of a "no-limits" fallacy though. I will need to have cited evidence for. 5 years ago. . 140. If i had to lowkey choose one blindly, i'd go with PRB. The value of your argument reached the negatives the moment you put fodder Beyonder above anyone here. From what I know of Sun Wukong, he doesn't even come close to him. In no way, shape, or form you can scale to the whole thing. The One Above All. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. Be careful man, soon the Lucifer fanboys will come out and lecture you about how Lucifer will curbstomp every single fictional being. Join this channel to get access to perks:…The Beyonder was an impossibly powerful being who held the Secret Wars, essentially kidnapping a whole bunch of heroes and villains and making them fight for his. [deleted] • 8 yr. Beyonder, spite as usual with beyonder. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. In Lucifer DC Multiverse is not just infinite dimensional but also existing in multiple existence as seen in his conversation with Presence. Beyonder made everything happen,every occurrence, positive or negative, was of Beyonder's own making Beyonder can rewriter everything,Even rewriter "Pre-recton Beyonder" into "SW3" HOTU never have. The Beyonders who are attacking the multiverse are beings that live in the beyond, which most likely is either outside the multiverse, or be void between universes. @whydama: well beyonder was stated to be millions of times more powerful than all the. Jmarshmallow. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. The Beyonders have nothing to do with Pre Retcon Beyonder. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Oblivion. He wins. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael Demiurgos. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. Motivation: ROB Fight in ROBverse. R2: God stomps. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. Its not like the writer of marvel has dominon only over character. Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. I don't think that PR Beyonder would actually notice him. #13 AgentofChaos1. PR Beyonder curbstomps. Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. Summary. Beyonder stomp beyond comprehension. "No other force or power in existence could. . the_doctor. A single PR Beyonder was enough to solo all the Celestials by himself . Pre-Retcon Beyonder: Most powerful version of Beyonder, stronger then the Living Tribunal but weaker then T. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is probably here as well. no one can tell, if he was less powerful than TOAA or equal, PR Beyonder was stated by Stan lee to be omnipotent, but the meaning of omnipotent is debatable. 14 years ago. R2: God stomps. The Beyonder was surprised by Mephisto. Because PR Beyonder mentioned how he wants her to return what’s rightfully his, which one of things I’m assuming that could be is a portion of his power he lent or something like that. That was an accident. The thing is though, "Pre-Retcon Beyonder" is the Beyonder circa Secret Wars II, 1985. 0. Jack Kline can’t do shit. Beyonder. Forum Posts. He. ago. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. EOS Li QiyVs Pre Retcon Beyonder Both are bloodlusted Both have basic knowledge of each other The battle takes place in a Nuetral location @DivineMaRound 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. Precursors and Silentium Flood (Halo) vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder (616 Marvel) Apparently, the Precursors are massively multiversal as the Forerunners, who are inferior to them, can use entire universes to power themselves. A being who is millions of times stronger than the marvel Multiverse vs a. So the information given is contradictory as a Cosmic Cube can't do what the Beyonder did but he canonically does those things. He’s stronger than the one above all who is pretty much god above god. 2. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . The same way AAO is the Supreme Being of the Marvel Multiverse. So logically the Beyonder at full power can defeat Galactus at full power. #20. Prepare for. No, he is likely Presence level. Doomslayer can beat 69420 trillion Master Chiefs and has literally indestructible armor he stomps. No matter how you interpret the effects of the Retcon, Beyonder can no longer be stated to be above Authorial fiat. Idk its hard to say because the beyonders who destroyed eternity infinity and all the cosmic entities, it took time for them to do that but the Marquis of Death waved his hand and they all died. PR Beyonder can see the future, he can manipulate reality itself, he was responsible for bringing all of the heroes and villains to. She/Her. R1: Everyone of the verses is at their peak. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Pages with a quote from this character will automatically be added here along with the quote. 4 years ago. This topic is locked from further discussion. Motivation: Both want to kill each other. However PR Beyonder has more power than basically all of existence and attacks that destroyed multiverses were nothing to. Don't think God Thing's H4X compares. No prep. Even though most of Beyonder's feats in SW are still canon, Doom's statement could have *only* been in reference to POST-retcon (ie. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. Battles. 5 years ago. 11 months ago. ". the same Molecule Man that trapped the Omniverse in a box. When the Beyonder entered Marvel, reality itself ceased to exist. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. Eternity, Death, Infinity, Oblivion. Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. Lucifer is not omnipotent. Reinhard or Mercurius could beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Follow 12318. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. The Beyonder is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are all after the retcon. Thanos w IG and heart of the universePre-Retcon Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than anyone not omnipotent. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. Master/Crazy Hand, Tabuu, Galeem/Dharkon. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor made for Loki and proven when he and Sylvie enchanted Alioth, who. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. Note: While the Beyonder's existence is often divided between "pre-retcon" and "post-retcon" in relation to the original Secret Wars, this is not entirely accurate. Beyonder's best feat is defeating a multiverse level entity, the Living Tribunal, which was a big deal. show 3 replies . That was the whole point of "Secret Wars II. Beyonder uses his prep to observe Doom preparing,. Spectre is tapped into God so he has an unlimited amount of power at his disposal. Adviser (Vs)Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. But it wont be easy by no means. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. Beyonder was the sum power of a multiverse, which still resides within a greater omniverse that Wanda's spell began to collapse . PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand.